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Hulse, David Allen

Author: M.L. Benton

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>From an early age, David Allen Hulse has made a diligent study of the
alphabets of the ancient world. Even as a child, David possessed a great
affinity for the alphabets of Egypt, Phoenicia, and Greece.

In college,
a reading of MacGregor Mathers' Kabbalah Unveiled opened up the Hebrew
alphabetic/numeric technique of Qabalistic research for him. After Hebrew, David
decoded and studied many other ancient languages, including Sanskrit and
Tibetan. In 1979, a discovery led to the need to capture the extent of all prior
Quabalistic research into one great reference work. His ongoing research is
aimed at the discovery of new definitions for the number series as well as new
magickal systems.

Llewellyn Publishers


By M.L. Benton


you don't mind, David, let's start with a small bio of yourself.

Allen Hulse: I was born and raised in Sacramento, California where I currently
work and reside. In the late 1960s and early 1970s I moved to San Francisco. It
was during these formative years that I began research on the books that have
been published in the last ten years.

My early childhood was filled with
many mystical experiences. I can relate one that has occurred in different forms
since my adolescent.

When I was in junior high school, I had a powerful
group soul experience. I was in a cafeteria full of students and teachers when,
all of a sudden, my conscious mind was joined to every other person in the room.
In one fleeting moment, I realized that everyone in that cafeteria was
slumbering in spirit. They were all unaware of the full potential of their own
souls. They were all desperately feeding their temporal, frail bodies with the
hope of living for one more moment, but not a single person in that room was
aware of their true purpose in life.

It was a very humbling experience
for me and an enormous welling up of emotional compassion came into my heart for
everyone around me. For that brief moment, I realized the impermanence of life
and the deep spiritual slumber that most souls are plunged into once they
incarnate in a physical body.

Such contact with the world soul has
occurred to me again and again after this first powerful vision.

did your spiritual side awaken?

I had a very special childhood that
prepared me for the spiritual path that I walk today. I was lucky enough to have
a grandmother on my mother's side (Marie Speich), who tended me in the first 5
years of my life. She talked incessantly to me about God, and her one mantra was
God is Love. This was burned into my heart at a very early stage, before the
dogma of the church would distort such a simple truth. I remember once asking my
grandmother, "Who is God?"

She gently cradled my small hand in her own.
She touched my open palm and told me that my palm was God and my outstretched
fingers all the souls of the world, including me. She said my palm was the sun
and my fingers its bright rays. Through my grandmother’s gentle grace I was
placed, very close to God at a very early age.

By my 13th birthday I
discovered Yoga, Hinduism, and Buddhism. From that point on the quest to know my
inner self was thrust upon me and became the only path that I could walk.

How has this enlightened and inspired you?

Even after you are
enlightened, you still have to wake up the next morning. One still has to
diligently work on maintaining the enlightened state after first reaching it. I
have been given the richest treasure this earth has to offer- the ability to
experience many spiritual illuminations, at various times of my life. In this
last year I have experienced a deeper understanding of the mysteries of the
Cosmos. I bless God every day of my life for allowing me another day to further
experience the divine in my waking life.

In this lifetime I have had
knowledge of not only my personal guardian angel, but of my many inner guides
who have helped direct my studies in the right direction. I have had direct
contact with my Higher Self repeatedly, and have had many moments of deep
communion with the Godhead. This last year I have been blessed with visions of
the spiritual work still ahead of me that I can do through the written word,
work that will manifest in my future books.

You have a fascination with
symbols, letters, tarot and the cube. Can you tell us how you came by this?

I was brought to the spiritual disciplines of the East before the
Western Mysteries blossomed for me. I discovered the word "Tarot" in my teenage
years. I could not find a Tarot deck at the time (this was around 1964), but I
discovered an article in the Encyclopedia that listed the names and numbers of
the cards, with a brief description of each. By meditating on these brief
descriptions and titles I designed a Tarot deck myself.

This served as a
gate to work that I had accomplished in previous lives concerning the mystical
and magical traditions found in both the Eastern and Western mystery schools.
This deck can be seen on my own personal web site under the heading of "The
Noble Tarot" at href="">
. This web site was created by my soul mate, Monique Wiersma, and we cherish
this project that stemmed from our joined creativity continuously.

do you feel is the connection the symbols, letters, tarot and cube have to each

The Cube of Space is a diagram of the cosmos, first clearly set
forth by Paul Foster Case in his 1947 book The Tarot: A Key to the Wisdom of the
Ages. I first discovered this diagram in 1969. By an inspired set of
meditations, I was able to connect the following symbols in this diagram: the
direction in space, the Hebrew letter, the astrological value of the letter, the
primary color assigned to the letter, and the diverse symbols of the
corresponding Tarot card. By threading these various symbols into a whole, the
path of initiation that we must all eventually tread was revealed to me in the
dimensions of this cube's 22 symbolic components.

You have written
two books previous to "New Dimensions for the Cube of Space."  Can you tell
us a little about those? How would you say they have led you to this one? 
Also, how is this one different?

The Hermetic Art is a term used in
modern occultism to describe the magic of Ancient Egypt, Greece, and Rome, but
it also applies to the emblematic arts of magical and mystical philosophy that
blossomed in the Renaissance. These include Alchemy, Freemasonry, High Ritual
Magic (especially the invocation of Angels), the Qabalah, the Rosicrucian
Enlightenment and the Tarot.

In all these esoteric teachings, there
exists a doctrine of correspondences. In this language of symbols, the letters
of the alphabet, numbers, colors, geometric shapes, animals, plants, parts of
the human body, and the stars of the night sky are all linked together. These
esoteric connections are the subject of my two books, The Eastern Mysteries and
The Western Mysteries, and are described in a multitude of tables and running

Every important symbolic doctrine found in 13 separate
esoteric traditions in the East and West is clearly shown. These arcane
correspondences, the philosophical doctrine of life-death-and-rebirth, can be
seen in the secret cosmological model known as The Cube of Space, as recorded in
my New Dimensions for the Cube of Space.

I would like to note
that there is a third book that I wrote in 1993 for Llewellyn publishing titled
The Truth About Numerology. In this brief pamphlet, I describe the various
schools of thought that have given numerical significance to the 26 letters of
the English alphabet. This was intended at first to be an appendix to the
thirteenth key (English) of The Western Mysteries. By the way, New Dimensions
for the Cube of Space was also intended to be an appendix in The Western
Mysteries, in this case to the twelfth key that deals with the Tarot.

Let's discuss  New Dimensions for the Cube of Space a little more.
Why do you feel the cube is of such importance?

Up to this point in
time, students of the Qabalah and Tarot have had the diagram known as The Tree
of Life as their measure of both the layers of the cosmos and their own personal
spiritual development. The Cube of Space now offers another ancient diagram that
can serve as a roadmap to everyone's spiritual journey. Each direction in space
designates a specific level of spiritual progress. It applies universally to all
traditions, and anyone who has done any inner spiritual work will immediately
recognize the spiritual landscape that the Cube of Space charts out. One of the
secrets of this roadmap is that the spiritual teacher we are all seeking for
guidance will one day turn out to be our own Higher Self, that essence of our
being that is constant through all incarnations past, present and future.

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In your book, you speak of Qabalah.
Can you explain to our readers exactly what this is?

The Qabalah (also
written as Cabala and Kabbalah) is the inner, mystical tradition of Orthodox
Judaism. It dates back to the prophets of the Old Testament, and was originally
referred to as The Secret (Sod) or Secret Science (Chockmah Nestorah).

This doctrine gave a mystical interpretation to every letter of the
Hebrew Alphabet. It set out esoteric, initiated meanings to the exoteric text of
the Torah. It depended on numerology, astrology, and magic for its deeper
meanings to the Holy Scriptures. In the middle ages, this doctrine slowly came
into Latin translations, and was combined with the Christian tradition of the
New Testament to form the esoteric tradition known as the Rosicrucian movement.
It was also incorporated into the secret rituals of Freemasonry.

Qabalah is the one, true key for unlocking the secrets contained within the

You said that the Tree of Life diagram is the key to the Cube of
Space. Can you elaborate a little more on this theory?

When I first
studied The Cube of Space, I needed to find an order to the center and six faces
that compose the cube (being East, South, West, North, Above and Below). I
discovered that the six faces and center of the cube were governed by the seven
select Hebrew letters that ruled the seven ancient planets. These seven planets
were placed on the Tree of Life in a special order, starting with Saturn and
ending with the Moon.

By taking the planetary order on the Tree of Life
and applying it to the center and six faces of the Cube of Space, I was able to
find a path around the cube. This path is the path of initiation and takes the
order of Center (Saturn), West (Jupiter), North (Mars), South (Sun), East
(Venus), Above (Mercury), and Below (Moon). Once I applied the planetary key of
the Tree of Life to the planetary faces (and center) of the Cube, the path
described therein was slowly revealed to me by the symbolism of the Tarot cards
at each direction on the Cube.

How did you discover these ancient Hebrew

In college I discovered two sources that led to my deep
interest in the mysticism of the ancient Hebrew alphabet. The first source was
the Tarot deck designed by Paul Foster Case for his organization, Builders of
the Adytum. In this deck, the letters of the Hebrew alphabet are clearly printed
on the 22 cards of the Major Arcana (they are not included in Waite’s Tarot
deck, which is undoubtedly the most popular Tarot deck of all times).

Seeing those cards made me question the magical nature of the Hebrew
alphabet. The other source document that started me on my studies of the
numerical values of the Hebrew language was S. L. MacGregor Mathers' The
Kabbalah Unveiled. This book, in its extensive introduction, showed the
numerical value of the Hebrew alphabet and briefly described Hebrew Numerology,
known as Gematria. From that point on, I began to number every relevant Hebrew
word or phrase my studies revealed and started a numerical dictionary which I am
still supplementing to this very day.

How do they intertwine with the
major arcana of the Tarot?

The esoteric doctrine on the Tarot can be
traced to the magical order of the Golden Dawn, a Rosicrucian mystery school
founded in 1887. The secret tradition of linking the 22 letters of the Hebrew
Alphabet with the 22 cards of the Major Arcana was first written down in a
secret document known as Book T. The ancient Hebrew book of alphabetic
cosmology, known as The Book of Formation, was used by the founding fathers of
the Golden Dawn to unlock the secrets of the Hebrew alphabet within the leaves
of the Tarot deck.

This Tarot research was further extended in the
writings of Arthur Edward Waite, Paul Foster Case, and Aleister Crowley. It is
also greatly expanded upon in my own trilogy of books, The Eastern Mysteries,
The Western Mysteries, and New Dimensions for the Cube of Space.

have added so many graphs and tables in your book. Can you tell me what inspired
you to do this?

All of my printed works on magic and mysticism are
filled with graphs and tables. My intention is to compartmentalize the detailed
symbolic knowledge in easy reference tables. This will allow the reader to
return to these source documents at a later date, and be able to retrieve the
dense amount of esoteric knowledge in as easy a manner as possible. I also found
that the Cube of Space in its 22 various dimensions was a very difficult model
to grasp. With the aid of many illustrations and diagrams, the reader is able to
understand every nook and cranny of this three-dimensional cube.

In your
book, you have even added a cut out page for everyone to have their own cube.
What was your inspiration for this?

In the last 30 years I have taught
many private classes on the Tarot to a select circle of students. At one point
in these classes, I would attempt to walk my students through the symbolism of
the cube. As I progressed with these classes I developed more and more handouts
showing the various faces, edges and inner dimensions of the cube.

eventually came upon the idea of manufacturing a folding cube that would be in
full color and contain images of the Tarot at the appropriate faces and edges. I
intended this to help the reader visualize the complicated pattern of the cube.
The interior of the cube still has to be imagined, but there are diagrams in the
text to help the reader visualize the three, inner coordinates intersecting at
the exact center of the cube.

I am hoping that my publisher will one day
print a larger poster of this cube as its present size is limited by the actual
page size of the book.

Can you share with us your feelings when you
found out that Carlos Santana was reading your books? How did you learn of his
interest in your work? Can you share this experience with us?

Carlos discovered my books at the beginning of this year, and revealed on his
Santana News website that he was currently reading The Eastern and Western

In reading his newsletter online, I found out that he had
taken time off from his tour and was diligently reading both The Eastern
Mysteries and The Western Mysteries.

I had read an interview with Carlos
and realized that he has a deep understanding of the Hebrew Qabalah. He is
aligned with the angel Metatron which, of all archangels, is the closest of all
to God. I also wrote a very detailed review of Santana's
Supernatural CD
before it turned gold that can be read online at :

Recently, I sent Carlos my "New Dimensions For The Cube Of Space." I
hope to have the pleasure of meeting Carlos someday and conversing with him on
the importance of instilling spiritual awareness through one's artistic

Moving on, can you tell us about your experience in writing
and contributing to the last chapter of the book, The Complete Golden Dawn
System of Magic by Israel Regardie? How did this come about?

In 1973, I
wrote to Israel Regardie inquiring on the existence of an unpublished manuscript
by Aleister Crowley that dealt with the numerical values of the ancient Greek
language. From that point on I struck up a correspondence with him. I was able
to discover the number codes for the Angelic language of Enochian just before
The Complete Golden Dawn System of Magic went to press, and Regardie was able to
include my research as a final chapter in this book.

I had previously
published three articles appearing in various mystical and magical journals, but
this one chapter for Regardie felt like my first official work in print. I
included much of the correspondence with Regardie that led to the writing of
this one chapter in the introduction to the eleventh key of The Western
Mysteries that deals with the Enochian language.

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Changing to the personal side. As you look back and see the
roads your journey of life has taken you, where would like to see it go next?

I have been working full time for the last 25 years in a field totally
unrelated to my own spiritual discipline in order to support my writing,
teaching and research. I have been able to publish much of my knowledge despite
the fact that I have to channel much of my energy into a 5 day a week job.
However, I am going to have an opportunity in the next 2 years to retire from my
work, and dedicate all of my waking moments to my future writing projects. I
hope to be more prolific in the coming years than ever before.

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Can you tell us what you are working
on now?

I have studied the magical accomplishments of Aleister Crowley
for much of my adult life. Crowley's most important writing in his long career
was The Book of the Law, which he felt to be the bible for a new age (in his
cosmology, the Aeon of Horus). Many essays have been written on this one book,
but much new material has surfaced in the last 10 years, including letters,
diary entries, and a better copy of the original manuscript itself.

of the most startling new pieces of information is that Crowley, two years after
writing The Book of the Law, claimed that it was a genuine example of automatic
writing. This is in contradiction to everything he had written about the divine
origin of this book later in his life. I have attempted to establish in great
detail a timeline revealing the creation, publication, and promulgation of The
Book of the Law, as well as documenting all the Qabalistic puzzles embedded in
the 220 verses of this text.

J. D. Holmes of Edmonds, Washington is
currently publishing my essay as three separate pamphlets. The title of this
trilogy is The Genesis of the Book of the Law. Part One is The Cairo Working
1875-1904. Part Two is The O.T.O. Legacy and the Birth of the A.A. 1905-1914.
Part Three is The Coming of the Magical Child 1915-1962. All three should be in
print by the end of this year.

If you could express what you have
learned as one thought in your experience, can you tell us what this would be?

Love God every day with all of your heart by unconditionally loving all
sentient life.

If you could change one thing from your journey what
would it have been?

Every decision we make in life, every branching road
we choose to travel is the right choice for that moment. I have read countless
divinations for people that I just met or for friends that I have known for some
time. These readings have revealed to me that all events, both the good and bad
that befall us in this incarnation (or any other) are a treasure house for
spiritual growth.

Looking back now on my journey this time around the
wheel of incarnation, I bless every person I have met, every new experience I
have encountered, and every failure as well as every success that has carried me
forward to this present moment, for all things in my life have refined my soul
in the fire of experience.

I had a revelation in the last few months
over the elixir of immortality. If you could prolong your life for pleasure or
diversion it would amount to nothing in a very short time. But if you could
extend this lifetime, in your present personality, so that you could work more
diligently on cultivating your inner spiritual life, then such an elixir would
be a boon rather than a bane to your existence.

I am currently 52 years
old, and I find that my youthful dreams of spiritual accomplishments have
finally been realized in my adulthood. I bless God that I have been allowed to
live this long, and I desire with all my heart to use the remaining days of my
life to help humanity awaken to their true spiritual nature.

Where do
you hope to go next? What would you like to yet accomplish before your next

I have been blessed all my life with the companionship of many
kindred souls who are also diligently cultivating their own soul life. Many
helpers have crossed my path and have helped me in publishing the spiritual
works that I have been capable of giving to a needy world.

Two years
ago, a remarkable person came into my life. Her name is Monique Wiersma and she
is a very talented writer and artist. When I first met her I was unsure that I
still had the stamina or inspiration to attempt new projects and create new
books of a spiritual nature. But once I met Monique, our friendship deepened and
we discovered that both of our hands could hold the same pen and write on the
same page.

We have combined our talents in writing a spiritual work of
fiction that embodies the unconditional love that two humans can share in the
light of God. This beautiful work of fiction combines the magical symbolism that
I have recorded in The Eastern Mysteries and The Western Mysteries with the
mythic story of the love of the Moon with her Sun. We have set the story of
unconditional love in a medieval landscape of our own devising. At this point
the novel is about halfway done. It is a book meant for everyone to read and

Monique's entrance into my life at this point has opened a
tremendous gate of new inspiration for me, coupled with many powerful spiritual
visions both in my waking and dream worlds. Beyond our new novel, I have had
visions of three other books that I will write in the coming years. Monique's
love and devotion to our shared creative work facilitated these visions for me.

The first book came to me as an idea one day after my last birthday.
Upon waking, the title of the book first came to me and then its contents
(usually for me it is the other way around- the plot line would come first and
then the title). The title was The 99 Chambers of Wisdom.

This book will
be a fictional account of the founder of the Rosicrucian movement, Christian
Rosenkreutz (Frater C.R.). In this book, Frater C.R.'s wanderings in Damascus
and Morocco in the 14th century will be described as an allegory.

Morocco, Frater C.R. is initiated into the Sufi Order of the Rose. He is given a
supreme initiation in which he must wander the deserts of Morocco in search of
the fabled tower of initiation known as the 99 chambers of wisdom. Each of the
99 cells of this tower contains the secret symbolism for the first 99 numbers in
all the esoteric languages of the world. After Frater C.R. experiences his
initiation in these chambers of wisdom, he returns to Europe and writes down the
secrets he has discovered in his own fabled number dictionary known as Liber
Thesaurus, or Book TH.

The second book came to me through the dreams of
a friend and fellow student, Kevin. Kevin often shares his vision dreams with
me. This spring, he had a dream in which he was given a letter from God. The
envelope was white, and embossed in raised letters was the powerful four letter
name of God in the Qabalah known as the Tetragrammaton.

>From this
suggestive dream, I later had a waking vision in which I saw the contents of the
white envelope. It was a manuscript for a very special book that I was to write.
This book was very slim, and was made up of three small chapters each of only 11
verses, making a total of 33 verses. At the head of each chapter was one letter
of the name G.O.D. The verses were all aphorisms of love, and conveyed the need
to love God every day in your life with all of your heart.

The title
page was simply The Book of God, and had both the number 26 and the Hebrew
letters for Jehovah boldly written on the cover. The verses themselves were
given to me in this waking vision, and, luckily, I was able to record all before
the vision began to fade. The first verse communicated to me was "God gave you
one drop of his eternal and with that one drop you will live forever." I have
subsequently worked more on this book, and have added additional inspired verses
as well as a commentary on the cosmological model offered in this inspired text.

About a month before I had this vision or learned of Kevin's dream of a
white envelope from God, I had a lucid dream in which I was offered any
reincarnation that I desired for my next incarnation. In the dream I immediately
knew what incarnation I would choose. I so wanted to be an angel with all my
heart, for I felt in the dream that if I was an angel I would dwell in a realm
far closer to God than any human incarnation could permit. In my dream the only
thing that I really desired was to be closer to God.

I also had a very
powerful world soul vision after receiving the idea for this book. I was able to
perceive the drop of immortality that dwells in every living person the next
day. As I walked out into a crowd of people milling around, I was keenly aware
of their own immortal souls. I was also keenly aware that most, if not all, were
unaware of this most subtle component of their being.

The last of three
projected works came to me in a dream. I often have dreams of being in a library
or bookstore, and find myself standing before a mysterious book. I pull the book
down from the shelves and open its pages to glance at its contents. Sometimes
there is writing and other times there are special diagrams of great magical or
mystical import. But in a dream that I just experienced this summer the idea of
a book came to me in my sleep.

I always carry with me in my waking
moments a notebook to jot down any new idea that might come to me. I have found
it important to have such a notebook by my bed as well during sleep for many
times as I am just about to doze off to sleep a very beautiful idea will come to
mind. If I don't record it at that exact moment I may lose it forever. In my
dream I had a vision of a new book, and I looked for my notebook to write it
down. In this case, the book had the number 888 on its cover.

The idea
that came to me in my dream was to write the mystical, inner spiritual life of
Jesus. In my dream it made perfect sense, and I saw that given all the knowledge
I had already gained in this lifetime, such a book would be possible. It would
combine three aspects of the mystical life of Jesus: the Gnostic Jesus revealed
in the symbolism of the Greek and Coptic alphabets, the Rabbinical Jesus
conversant in the Hebrew Qabalah and the modern mystical aspect of Jesus as
championed by Theosophy, The Golden Dawn, and Rudolph Steiner.

would be referred to as Yehoshuah in the work, which is the insertion of the
letter Shin of the Holy Spirit in the center of the four letters Yod Heh Vav Heh
of Jehovah. The mystery behind his Greek name as IHSOUS (which numbers to 888)
would also be in the book. I was very happy in the dream, and began to sketch
the book out in my personal notebook while still asleep.

When I awakened
I felt that I was not capable of such a book. In my dream it seemed possible,
but when fully awake, I shrunk from the magnitude of the task. However, about a
week later, I had a whole evening where the idea of this book simply consumed me
in all its bright, white light. I feverishly wrote down all night certain
aspects of this book. At first I thought, why should I even attempt to add to
this body of work? But I now know that this is another Spirit inspired task that
I must accomplish.

Monique has already had a hand in this work as well,
for I was grappling with a title after first having my inspired dream until
Monique sent me a choice of three tentative titles. Among these three choices
was the right title for this future work: Godsend, for truly the concept of this
book was a Godsend to me that reached me deeply through my subconscious dream

Hopefully, all of these books and more will be written with God's
inspiration and Monique's help in the coming years. There are many things for us
to accomplish, separately and together.

The new book that you are
writing with your soulmate Monique Wiersma sounds to be an absolutly delightful
read. Will you come back for an interview upon its release?

Legend is a wonderful celebration of all that is feminine. It is a paean to the
Goddess, especially the Lunar Goddess who is the keeper of the mysteries. The
reader will fall in love with the two main characters, and I have been able to
weave into the plotline real magic, from traditional sources.

Monique and I finish the work, we would love to do an interview with you

I would like to thank you for taking your valuable time to do
this interview with us, and I hope you will come back to do other interviews
with us as your work continues.

Yes, I will come back to you again.
Your questions were able to reveal my own personal spiritual pursuits, and I
thank you for the opportunity of sharing my life's work with you.Thank you for
giving me the opportunity to discuss my published works and potential future

David Allen Hulse

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New Dimensions for the Cube of Space
Redwheel/Weiser, Publisher

The Truth of Numerology
The Eastern Mysteries
The Western
Llewellyn, Publisher

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